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Old 10-12-2007, 09:43 PM   #31
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I know cocaine is hardcore and taking it one time could give you a heart attack.

I was referring to marijuana.
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Old 10-12-2007, 09:45 PM   #32
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well it constricts blood vessels so it can aid in heart problems
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Old 10-12-2007, 09:46 PM   #33
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Well, we've now established that marijuana won't prevent you from becoming president, provided you don't inhale. As for other effects, a major review, Marijuana and Health, was issued in 1982 by a panel of scientists working for the National Academy of Sciences. Subsequent research has done little to alter their conclusions. Here's what they said:

The "amotivational syndrome" (i.e., apathy). Sure enough, dopers tend to be apathetic. But it's never been proven that marijuana causes apathy. In fact, the panel found, it may well be the other way around--maybe apathy causes you to use marijuana. On a related subject, the panel noted that atrophy in the brains of 10 heavy marijuana users had been reported some years ago by a British researcher. Another scientist at Tulane said he found "dramatic" changes in the brains of monkeys subjected to carloads of cannabis. But both studies were sharply criticized for methodological deficiencies. Other scientists have found no brain damage. This led the NAS panel to conclude, predictably, that "much more work is needed." A 1995 review of marijuana's effect on the brain said pretty much the same thing and as far as I can tell the question remains unsettled today. As for "reefer madness," there is little evidence that marijuana per se causes psychosis, but it may trigger psychotic episodes in people who have mental problems to start with.


Lungs. Marijuana smoke contains about 50 percent more carcinogenic hydrocarbons than cigarette smoke. Tests with lab animals and whatnot indicate that marijuana-induced lung cancer is a real possibility. (They also indicate that smoking both marijuana and tobacco is worse than smoking just one or the other.) Still, as of 1982, there had never been a case of lung cancer attributable solely to dope smoking--possibly, according to the panel, "because marijuana has been widely smoked in this country for only about 20 years, and data have not been collected systematically in other countries with a much longer history" of heavy dope use. A somewhat alarmist 1992 report from Australia claimed that marijuana had been implicated in cases of mouth, jaw, tongue, and lung cancer. I'm skeptical of claims that marijuana was the sole cause of these cancers, however. Even if one assumes the worst, marijuana as a carcinogen pales in comparison to tobacco. Be that as it may, heavy dope users are prone to respiratory problems such as pharyngitis, sinusitis, bronchitis, and asthma.


Heart. Dope smoking places extra stress on the heart, the panel said. This is probably harmless to healthy people, but if you have high blood pressure or hardening of the arteries, or if you're prone to strokes, you should lay off.


Reproductive system. Dope suppresses the production of male sex hormone, shrinks the testes, and inhibits sperm production. Fortunately, the effects don't seem to be permanent. Animal studies indicate that marijuana also inhibits ovulation in females. Dope does not cause chromosome damage. As of 1982 there was no hard evidence that it caused birth defects or low birth weight and from what I can see there still isn't.

Finally, there's no question that smoking does make you, well, stoned--i.e., it's harder to concentrate, your coordination deteriorates, and so on. If you smoke during lunch hour your job performance will suffer. In addition, the panel says, your abilities remain impaired for four to eight hours after the feeling of being stoned passes--much longer than with alcohol. So don't smoke if you're going to drive or do any sort of complex task later in the day.

There are still a few people who think marijuana is a major health threat. But the more common view is that, while marijuana doesn't exactly qualify as health food, on the whole it causes fewer problems than its two main competitors on the recreational drug scene, alcohol and tobacco. Granted, that's like saying it causes fewer problems than nuclear war. But you do have to ask why marijuana is illegal and alcohol and tobacco aren't.

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Old 10-12-2007, 09:51 PM   #34
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Right...it should be common sense that it makes PRE-EXISTING heart problems/disease worse. But as for as pot goes it's not going to be the pot that kills them it's the initial heart disease. Someone just smoking pot isn't going to die but for their heart disease.

There are still a few people who think marijuana is a major health threat. But the more common view is that, while marijuana doesn't exactly qualify as health food, on the whole it causes fewer problems than its two main competitors on the recreational drug scene, alcohol and tobacco. But you do have to ask why marijuana is illegal and alcohol and tobacco aren't.

I mentioned all of this on the first page. It comes down to making a PRE-EXISTING heart condition worse. Not the actual cause of the heart problem.

+ I didn’t see the part where it mentioned people dying in the 40s and 50s due to marijuana.
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well i know, i didnt add that...whoops thought i did. basically... just play it safe and dont take anything.well thats how i meant it, its best just not to do anything. but im gonna stick to what i say itll cause problems
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I will continue to stay clean. I don't even drink pop so I think I'm good to go Dec. 2nd will be my third year w/o a pop/soda.
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I will continue to stay clean. I don't even drink pop so I think I'm good to go Dec. 2nd will be my third year w/o a pop/soda.
damn, i dont drink em that often maybe one every few days
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Old 10-12-2007, 10:38 PM   #38
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To be completley honest I did most of my growing while under the influence of a lot of marijuana.....I mean a lot of marijuana!!! I had no side effects with any part of my body, and if anything it helps you concentrate more. I do have a hard time believing that a natural plant that is smoked right off the plant is more carcinogenic than a plant that is processed in a factory and mixed with a punchbowl of chemicals.
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To be completley honest I did most of my growing while under the influence of a lot of marijuana.....I mean a lot of marijuana!!! I had no side effects with any part of my body, and if anything it helps you concentrate more. I do have a hard time believing that a natural plant that is smoked right off the plant is more carcinogenic than a plant that is processed in a factory and mixed with a punchbowl of chemicals.
LOLOLOLOLOL im sure it affects everyone differently. but yeah you do have a good point but smoke is smoke regardless of processing.
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And we talked Sparky about how it might be good for leg days to get through the pain
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