[julio40]

Originally Posted by Mygeeto

my auntie is a nurse, no kids, just two little king charles cavalier dogs that are her children. works at a retirement village and in the nursing wards of hospitals. travles around the world on a bi-yearly basis.
dad is just a blue collar shit kicker. eats pies, drinks beers, works on cars and is pretty much everyting you think of when the word aussie bogan comes to mind.
mother is a full time cabbie who, if not working for money, works around the house and is in charge of the family.

how could you get 3 people like these to understand the dynamics of sports performance drugs beyond that which they are given from tv and radio? you cant.

i kno im Dominican and my whole family is Dominican and i dont kno but almost all of my people are hardheaded i mean that they wont believe anybody... something like that

[HuskerPower]

HaHa that is hilarious man I have had the same arguement with the girlfriend, Just start leaving random syringes around the house and see that vein in your dads head pop out

[poison ivy]

I agree with the fact the older generation see " steroids " to be the worst thing you can do with serious implications also !! It comes down to the fact they are not educated on the do's and dont's of using such a drug ! Society in general do not understand hence all the negative publicity !
The wrestler who killed his family before hanging himself ... some say to do with mental illness ... others say to do with roid rage of which he was on alot at the time ! But my point being the press / the media ... blaming steroid use hence making our sport look even worse, Lets face it after that documentary on Gregg valentino our sport hit rock bottom. Everyone assumes every BB'er is on some sort of enhanced drug plus the media seems to view steroid users to junkies ! Heroin users !!

Doctors dont and also havnt been educated on steroids in general ... A sports specialist / doctor is the best person to advise. You go in hospital with gynae and they assume its steroid use lol. They are clueless on such subjects ! The same as parents !

I have personally never used steroids but after alot of research into the subject i know they can be used safely and affectively by taking the correct dosages etc ! And having a proper PCT in place !
Infact more harm could come to you by overdosing on paracetamol ... ibrufen etc !

just my 2 cents worth :)

[ibanezman88]

mygeeto,
why would you even mension steroids to your parents? that's kinda dumb.
those are the kind of things you keep to yourself. and if you're gonna use, don't involve them. they won't believe a word you say because 1, the media fucked up for us in the first place and 2, you're 17 and to them, you're ignorant and don't know what you're talking about and are naive.
what, did you think you were gonna convince your mom into letting you use steroids?

[enioibro]

Originally Posted by ibanezman88

mygeeto,
why would you even mension steroids to your parents? that's kinda dumb.
those are the kind of things you keep to yourself. and if you're gonna use, don't involve them. they won't believe a word you say because 1, the media fucked up for us in the first place and 2, you're 17 and to them, you're ignorant and don't know what you're talking about and are naive.
what, did you think you were gonna convince your mom into letting you use steroids?

Yeah,you're right ibanez!But maybe there is the money problem,don't you think?!
He has to save his money for the bb tour

[jmd85]

I think by the time you feel it might be the right stage of your life to maybe start using your parents, or anyones, opinion on the matter should be completely irrelevent.

If i was you i wouldn't waste my energy arguing with them over something your probably going to do in your own time by your own discision anyway.

[enioibro]

He only tries to educate and change their opinion.That fucking opinion that media tries to put in people mind.

[Mygeeto]

Originally Posted by ibanezman88

mygeeto,
1 why would you even mension steroids to your parents? that's kinda dumb.

2 those are the kind of things you keep to yourself. and if you're gonna use, don't involve them. they won't believe a word you say because 1, the media fucked up for us in the first place and 2, you're 17 and to them, you're ignorant and don't know what you're talking about and are naive.

3 what, did you think you were gonna convince your mom into letting you use steroids?

1 - i like to shit stir people and get reactions

2 - who are they going to beleive if not thier own son? by the way, i feel my arguement was very reasonable and intelligent.

3 - no, see number 1. although if she or anyone else in the family could get a glimps of my knowlage on such a topic, they would trust me more, they would see that i could use them responsibly because i have a good solid knowlage on them.
its not the first, and it wont be the last, arguement/debate ill be having on this topic, but i have said to them realisticly it would be extremly difficult for me to get into steroids for real.
theres the cost, the fear of getting caught, fear of fakes, not desiring the side effects, finding a trustworthy dealer, ect ect.

[poison ivy]

its not the first, and it wont be the last, arguement/debate ill be having on this topic, but i have said to them realisticly it would be extremly difficult for me to get into steroids for real.
theres the cost, the fear of getting caught, fear of fakes, not desiring the side effects, finding a trustworthy dealer, ect ect.[/quote]

Theres also your age ... 17 is way too young to even consider steroids ! Im surprised knowone else has not mentioned your age is a big factor of not using them !

Your body still has alot of growing up to do ... you need to be at your ut-most PEAK and by that I mean cant gain any more muscle naturally and end up coming to a platueu before one should consider enhanced ! If you take at your age you could end up shutting your systen down of test altogether ! Have another 5 years at least of intense training !

At the end of the day you need a good muscular base / to be at your peak form. You naturally stop growing at the age of 25 ... Stunt of growth may be one of the negatives sides you will experience ! Do you even have a good cycle planned ?
This is not critisism here mygeeto ... its knowledge that I myself have gained.
knowledge is power ! use it wisely.

[mindstar]

Benoit's case was due to repeated brain trauma, ie concussions.

[PWRofONE]

Layne and Patrick Arnold covered anabolics pretty well in Layne's webcast...nothing more.