[venstracyo]

hey guys despite i;mnt a big mustafa mohammed fan,i think he has a impressive body,have u ever woundred why do they always tend to place him so bad?i mean for an example he placed out of the top 15 these year while he did look good(good enogth to beat troy alves,i think)also in 05 he got 10th place while looking better than darrem charles(9th)what do u think?am i just emagining things or is it about the politics envolved??

[LazosVshape]

I TEND TO THINK THAT HE HAS TO SEEK MORE PUBLICITY IN THE STATES. GET A CONTRACT AND GET EXPOSURE. BBING IS WHAT IT IS. ALSO HE HAS TO IMPROVE HIS CONDITION.

[ACEPLUMBING]

it's always politics...arab,black,spanish it dont matter...you gotta show your face around otherwise ur a nobody..

[venstracyo]

infact it does matter,i'm arab man and thats the reason why -even if i have a world class physiqe-i will never turn pro exept if i have a body like nasser el sonbaty or somthing,that was nt able to stop him nt from just turning pro but to even win the 1999 AC and take 2nd inda 1997 olympia...

[cook82]

I hate when people start crying about racism....get over it the world isnt fair!!!! thats life. Everyone thinks they are being discriminated against because of their race....do they ever stop and think that maybe this person is being an ass hole to me because I'm a douche bag and not because of the color of my skin!!! (The douche bag comment was in NO WAY intended toward you venstracyo)

[venstracyo]

Originally Posted by cook82

I hate when people start crying about racism....get over it the world isnt fair!!!! thats life. Everyone thinks they are being discriminated against because of their race....do they ever stop and think that maybe this person is being an ass hole to me because I'm a douche bag and not because of the color of my skin!!! (The douche bag comment was in NO WAY intended toward you venstracyo)

i understand man,no hard feelings!!but its just that ur VIEW abt arabs are so misunderstood,we arent just crazy ppl that leave in tents and go crazy killing cirezens ,we live normally,the media have made it difficult for us,the least u can do is just tune in to c a tv show and here he is jack in 24 trying to stop some arab touorrrists,,anyway man i aint gonna go to an unendless conversation so im just sayin even if i do what must be done,in the end i'm gonna be treted one way:as an arab muslim freak.and will take last place in any contest i enter,,thats life?

[cook82]

Originally Posted by venstracyo

i understand man,no hard feelings!!but its just that ur VIEW abt arabs are so misunderstood,we arent just crazy ppl that leave in tents and go crazy killing cirezens ,we live normally,the media have made it difficult for us,the least u can do is just tune in to c a tv show and here he is jack in 24 trying to stop some arab touorrrists,,anyway man i aint gonna go to an unendless conversation so im just sayin even if i do what must be done,in the end i'm gonna be treted one way:as an arab muslim freak.and will take last place in any contest i enter,,thats life?

Dude you totally misunderstodd me I wasnt saying that at all. In fact I have alot of Arabic friends some from eypt. My dads new wife is persian for **** sake so I am definently not saying that comment toward arabic people just people that bitch about being discriminated against because of their race when that is not the case. And I dont think that you are going to take last place based on your religion or ethnicity I think that will happen if you neglect your training.

Also I know your probably think I am some white guy who has never experienced racism so I have to concept of what its like. To tell you a little about my self I am 1/2 japanese and my grandmother her brother and sister, and great grand parents were forced into U.S interment camps during WWII even though they japanese americans. So I have seen the effects of racism.

AND P.S DONT TALK **** ABOUT 24 JACK BAUER IS THE ****!!! And also it's not always arabic's that are the terrorist in that show. ther are asian, russian, american........

[Thomas_Rivera]

I really don't think it has that much to do with race. If anything that would've screwed with Arnold as well seeing as his father was a part of the Austrian Nazi party and America has always had a clear cut opposition to the Nazi regime.

I've heard people say he's an ******* from some people.

Another reason I don't think it has to do with race also because, Ronnie winning all those years in a row.

[Sparky_dustin]

I think Mustafa is and incredible BB and has an awesome physique but he placed lower that Darem because Darem has incredible conditioning and full muscle bodies where as Mustafa comes in smoother, Troy Alves has a different body style than Mustafa, his is an X-Frame where Mustafa is kinda stocky.

[Columbu's back]

If I remember correctly didn't Mustapha pass out after a competition a few years ago where he absolutely nailed his conditioning?

If I have remembered right then maybe he was told to calm down with the diauretics as of the bad press towards BBing. As a result maybe he has been a little reluctant to repeat this incident.

Like I say I can't be 100% sure about him passing out as my memory is the ****s, but it's one possible theory.

[cook82]

mustafas waist is also very thick

[Thomas_Rivera]

The waist thing will always count against him, along with how smooth he tends to look in comparison to higher placed individuals.

His waist is more of a l l than a \ /.

[Sparky_dustin]

Precisily....I think thats how your spell precisily

[kenney]

got f**k all to do with race. he just isnt up to par with the others. ronnie coleman is black, hes got 8sandows behind him, people arent banging on about racism when he is the center of discussion.Arnie is Austrian and he is considered one of the top bodybuilders of all time.Lee Haney was black too.The most successful bodybuilders have always been black or none American, so that proves that race and nationality have got nothing to do with it

[EastCoast Highlander]

Originally Posted by cook82

I hate when people start crying about racism....get over it the world isnt fair!!!! thats life. Everyone thinks they are being discriminated against because of their race....do they ever stop and think that maybe this person is being an ass hole to me because I'm a douche bag and not because of the color of my skin!!! (The douche bag comment was in NO WAY intended toward you venstracyo)

people will look for excuses no matter what race they are, people are just arseholes, the term racist is really used too often and usually as an excuse for failure etc etc people just need to always strive for the best and do their best no matter what some arsehole says

[venstracyo]

anyway guys thx for ur comments i really aprecitate it,,and i think cook82 is true,,i shouldnt focus on this **** and would rather keep my head in training and dieting coz thats really what would make me win
thx guys,,

[yotajay]

personally I think mustafa mohammed's build isn't all that great I agree with his low placings.

[KEN777]

Originally Posted by venstracyo

infact it does matter,i'm arab man and thats the reason why -even if i have a world class physiqe-i will never turn pro exept if i have a body like nasser el sonbaty or somthing,that was nt able to stop him nt from just turning pro but to even win the 1999 AC and take 2nd inda 1997 olympia...

problem is not Arab but Egypt..it's nowhere man..face it ur living in a 3rd would dump and nobody gives a **** about you or your country..so be Mr Egypt or Mr Cairo and see who cares..that's life bro..

[KEN777]

Originally Posted by Thomas_Rivera

I really don't think it has that much to do with race. If anything that would've screwed with Arnold as well seeing as his father was a part of the Austrian Nazi party and America has always had a clear cut opposition to the Nazi regime.

I've heard people say he's an ******* from some people.

Another reason I don't think it has to do with race also because, Ronnie winning all those years in a row.

speak for yourself dude..Arnie's father was o.k...body building as about as racist as American basketball..

[KEN777]

Originally Posted by Sparky_dustin

Precisily....I think thats how your spell precisily

precisely as in precise with ly at the end..

[kenney]

i heard there was a lot of controvery cuz Arnold was allegedly Nazi too

[ACEPLUMBING]

Originally Posted by kenney666

i heard there was a lot of controvery cuz Arnold was allegedly Nazi too

all the Nazi's were dead when Arnold was born..Arnold is a Republican like all decent American men..

[Sparky_dustin]

Originally Posted by KEN777

precisely as in precise with ly at the end..

Thank you Ken

[venstracyo]

Originally Posted by KEN777

problem is not Arab but Egypt..it's nowhere man..face it ur living in a 3rd would dump and nobody gives a **** about you or your country..so be Mr Egypt or Mr Cairo and see who cares..that's life bro..

go **** yourself who r u anyway to know any thing abt my country,sure america is WAY to better but dont speake **** unless u know anything abt it ,so u can jst go crazy and say"3rd world country"but u just dnt know anything abt it.point blank:its not uncivilized as your so called"brain"thinks,,,
and who r ya anyway to tell me to just face the truth,,what so bad with being a "3rd world citizen" unless im leaving misrable and unconfortable??but anyway dude in the end thx for just sayn so coz u jst gave me energy to prove u wroung,,
{no offence to anyone on the bords,,,}

[cook82]

Originally Posted by ACEPLUMBING

all the Nazi's were dead when Arnold was born..Arnold is a Republican like all decent American men..

AMEN BROTHER!!!!!!

[KEN777]

Originally Posted by venstracyo

go **** yourself who r u anyway to know any thing abt my country,sure america is WAY to better but dont speake **** unless u know anything abt it ,so u can jst go crazy and say"3rd world country"but u just dnt know anything abt it.point blank:its not uncivilized as your so called"brain"thinks,,,
and who r ya anyway to tell me to just face the truth,,what so bad with being a "3rd world citizen" unless im leaving misrable and unconfortable??but anyway dude in the end thx for just sayn so coz u jst gave me energy to prove u wroung,,
{no offence to anyone on the bords,,,}

do it bud..I was meaning you wont make the world stage like Arnie or Cutler from a stage on the Nile..if the truth hurts that's your problem...Arnie and Columbu came to Amnerica so they could be somebody...if u want to be somebody u cant do it from Egypt and u know it dude

[KEN777]

Originally Posted by venstracyo

go **** yourself who r u anyway to know any thing abt my country,sure america is WAY to better but dont speake **** unless u know anything abt it ,so u can jst go crazy and say"3rd world country"but u just dnt know anything abt it.point blank:its not uncivilized as your so called"brain"thinks,,,
and who r ya anyway to tell me to just face the truth,,what so bad with being a "3rd world citizen" unless im leaving misrable and unconfortable??but anyway dude in the end thx for just sayn so coz u jst gave me energy to prove u wroung,,
{no offence to anyone on the bords,,,}

and by the way how do you realy feel?

[Sparky_dustin]

OUCH!!!

[venstracyo]

Originally Posted by KEN777

do it bud..I was meaning you wont make the world stage like Arnie or Cutler from a stage on the Nile..if the truth hurts that's your problem...Arnie and Columbu came to Amnerica so they could be somebody...if u want to be somebody u cant do it from Egypt and u know it dude

i agree withya..ofcourse i cant make it 4m here,,i'll have to come to the us to get recognetion,,,wheni build my body 1st,,anyway i mean u no offence but i jst felt a lil hemelulated when u said that i leave in "nowhere",,beleve me,egypt anit that bad,,only u just get the concept that its abt camels and piramids,,,

[ACEPLUMBING]

Originally Posted by venstracyo

i agree withya..ofcourse i cant make it 4m here,,i'll have to come to the us to get recognetion,,,wheni build my body 1st,,anyway i mean u no offence but i jst felt a lil hemelulated when u said that i leave in "nowhere",,beleve me,egypt anit that bad,,only u just get the concept that its abt camels and piramids,,,

I'm Egyptian and Indian....lool but now I'm a Yankee....