[mooch2031]

ok so here goes nothing. today i was at the gym and i was working out ya know and got into this discusion with this guy about powerlifting and bodybuilding. now i know the difference like my plans are to powerlift in college this janurary then go off into a bodybuilding career HOPEFULLY....well this guy asks me whut juice am i usng and i say none u kno i told him bou my 6 meals a day even 7 depending on how late i stay up "college is stressful aint been sleeping worth a crap" and then he asks whut juice will i use and i said nne now i love this sport i always did ya know and i want to do it and i know steroids are involved but i believe and this might sound dumb but i believe u can do it naturally i mean look steroids is in every sport even bike racing i mean like ronnie im not saying he took them and im not saying he didnt "even tho this sounds crazy but" i mean like barry bonds he has never be fined for juice there was some consipracy with him but its just because he is doing the impossible by braking hank arron's record that people think he juices i mean i know i might never win a olympia but it has to be possible to get big enough to go pro without juiceing i mean david extine is a shortsop and was the mvp last year and he is only 175. my heart got broke today and im not saying anything about people that juice its just i dont want to do it because first off i hate shots and i had problems just when i didnt know any better and took m-one-t. so i dont kno if yall get this much but i dont need physical advice right now i need mental advice i have always heard the saying nothing is impossiblebut........is it? i hope not cuz i dont want to eat like i eat, or pass up taco bell every day to go home to plain rice and steak 3 times a day ya kno and train for hours a day depending on whut im doing and get let down because i dont shoot juice

[bbdude]

okey first of all.... with todays competitors u cant win MR.O, Arnolds Classic or Worlds strongest man natty..... second, if u dont aim that high u can reach pretty far, and most people believe that the roidgut looks disguisting and would therefore love people who goes natty....
ur post was kinda confusing so im not sure if i got this right :S

[nath91]

No offense mate but that is one confusing post.

i think i understand where your going, and heres my take...there are going to be people that juice and people that dont. people that DO juice, that is their own personal decision. you have your right to an opinion and if you dont want to juice and want to become a pro thats awesome. to each his own you know? what you have to think of is what do u mean by pro? alot of people get their pro cards and don't juice. i agree with bbdude that if you are going to win a sandow and become ifbb pro, well you better get over your fear of needles lol.

don't let your goals be held back by the thought of using AAS. get as big as you can, then evaluate where you want to go.

with regards to your comments on david eckstein and other sports, i dont think its pertinent to bodybuilding. if anything i think bodybuilding has the greatest fairness for everyone. think about it, football you cannot be in the NFL unless you have freak genetics 6'4 255 lbs and run a 4.5. 40 yard dash. Basketball, you mine as well give up if your not over 6'2'', the league average is nearly 6'8''. yes, there are exceptions in these sports, but bodybuilding has people of all different sizes. short tall, medium frames and big frames. were all born with muscles and the ability to eat right and build them. i just see it as the most fair opportunity in the world of athletics. so if your going to pursue bodybuilding don't get down on yourself because of one detail, think of it in a positive way.

just work hard bro!!!!

[mooch2031]

thanx dude i guess i used david eckstein and barry bonds to try and give an example but u r right about bodybuilding being fair i mean im young and still have a lot to learn i just wanna make sure im mentally ready to take critisism and be under the pressure that not many people understand bodybuilders or weightlifters in general go threw

[cook82]

Originally Posted by mooch2031

ok so here goes nothing. today i was at the gym and i was working out ya know and got into this discusion with this guy about powerlifting and bodybuilding. now i know the difference like my plans are to powerlift in college this janurary then go off into a bodybuilding career HOPEFULLY....well this guy asks me whut juice am i usng and i say none u kno i told him bou my 6 meals a day even 7 depending on how late i stay up "college is stressful aint been sleeping worth a crap" and then he asks whut juice will i use and i said nne now i love this sport i always did ya know and i want to do it and i know steroids are involved but i believe and this might sound dumb but i believe u can do it naturally i mean look steroids is in every sport even bike racing i mean like ronnie im not saying he took them and im not saying he didnt "even tho this sounds crazy but" i mean like barry bonds he has never be fined for juice there was some consipracy with him but its just because he is doing the impossible by braking hank arron's record that people think he juices i mean i know i might never win a olympia but it has to be possible to get big enough to go pro without juiceing i mean david extine is a shortsop and was the mvp last year and he is only 175. my heart got broke today and im not saying anything about people that juice its just i dont want to do it because first off i hate shots and i had problems just when i didnt know any better and took m-one-t. so i dont kno if yall get this much but i dont need physical advice right now i need mental advice i have always heard the saying nothing is impossiblebut........is it? i hope not cuz i dont want to eat like i eat, or pass up taco bell every day to go home to plain rice and steak 3 times a day ya kno and train for hours a day depending on whut im doing and get let down because i dont shoot juice

First of all no you can not be successful in bodybuilding with out steroid unless you compete in natural competitions.

AND SECOND MORE IMPORTANTLY BARRY BONDS IS A CHEATING PIECE OF SHIT!!!!!! ITS NOT A FUCKING CONSPIRICY!!! HE WAS INDICTED BY A FUCKING GRAND JUSRY!! DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA WHO VICTOR CONTE IS? OR ABOUT BALCO? OR ANY OF THE OTHER INCIDENTS THAT ARE CURRENTLY CIRCLING BARRY BONDS!!!!! BARRY BONDS IS A PIECE OF SHIT AND I HOPE A SNIPER TAKES HIM OUT AS HE IS ROUNDING 3RD BASE TO BEAT HANK ARRONS RECORD..............ALSO BARRY BONDS EATS KITTENS....TRUE STORY!!!!

cook totally agree..buut i wasnt going to get into taht. he is a piece of shit

[KEN777]

he's the most mental guy in the dungeon...tho he might be chained up right now as it is past his curfew...

[Mygeeto]

yeah.. umm about that
noone should ever look to bodybuilding for a career, but use it to help along with other careers.. modelling, photography, film industry army, furniture moving, wood cutting, ect.
there is absolutly no way any one of the 25,000 plus members here can become pro (unless they already are like Layne Norton and Kamal).

best you could hope for is to read and research everything about human anatomy, food technology, exersize physiology, sports medicine, anabolic steroids, ect.
all the while training naturally for another 6 to 7 years to learn more about how your body adapts and responds to different things, diets, ect. then maybe try small cycles of steroids on the 8th year.
and basicly just try your best ac scuplting the most aesthetic, pleasing and proportionate body you can. flowing lines is what impresses people.
make a port folio... it might help get ya a career in modelling which is the closest any of us will ever get to pro status.

[bbdude]

Originally Posted by Mygeeto

yeah.. umm about that
noone should ever look to bodybuilding for a career, but use it to help along with other careers.. modelling, photography, film industry army, furniture moving, wood cutting, ect.
there is absolutly no way any one of the 25,000 plus members here can become pro (unless they already are like Layne Norton and Kamal).

best you could hope for is to read and research everything about human anatomy, food technology, exersize physiology, sports medicine, anabolic steroids, ect.
all the while training naturally for another 6 to 7 years to learn more about how your body adapts and responds to different things, diets, ect. then maybe try small cycles of steroids on the 8th year.
and basicly just try your best ac scuplting the most aesthetic, pleasing and proportionate body you can. flowing lines is what impresses people.
make a port folio... it might help get ya a career in modelling which is the closest any of us will ever get to pro status.

what u mean noone of us can become pros??? i believe a lot of guys here have potential to reach pretty far, and everyones role model, Layne Norton, was 130lbs when he turned 15.... a lot of the young guys can reach far in the world of bbing...

[Sparky_dustin]

Originally Posted by cook82

ALSO BARRY BONDS EATS KITTENS....TRUE STORY!!!!

Hey have you guys seen my cat??? He's been missing for a few days now and I'm getting kinda worried.