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Old 01-19-2007, 02:33 PM   #1
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Posting for the first time. Finally have some time in a busy schedule, yahoo!

So...joined this site mainly cause I've been working out hard for over 3 years after being swimming pretty much my entire life. Wanted some support from my trainer but he's refused to share advice as he doesn't want me off swimming but I've decided I want a bigger bod.
Been on protein, glutamine, animal pack and creatine so far...regular appointments to the nuutritionist but after a while I think I've reached the top of what I can do without supplements.
Been browsing the net for a while but there's just far too much information and of course all advertisements root for their product.
Figured I'll only get good advise from people who are actually using them so here I am posting.
I'm working out 6 days a week, each day a different muscular group and intend to keep that schedule. I've reduced the cardio as I was starting to lose weight which is working agains what I want so I guess the first question I'm throwing is what's the adequate supplement to bulk up? I want bigger arms, bigger chest...legs and back are okay as I got that from swimming, but wanna get bigger overall...anyone mind sharing a clue as to where to start?

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Old 01-19-2007, 03:49 PM   #2
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try getting off the supplements for 3 weeks 4 if you can stand it youll think your weaker but thats all mental. and drop your workouts to 4 or 5 times a week up the protein and carbsby 10%. try that out its pretty much what my trainer has me do when i hit a platue. your body gets too adapted to the supplements so when you re add them youll feel amazing and youll gain. good luck
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Old 01-20-2007, 11:36 AM   #3
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I'm working out 6 days a week, each day a different muscular group and intend to keep that schedule.............. but wanna get bigger overall...
6 days a week is pushing it. Train 3-4 times weekly and base your routine around compound lifts like squats, deads, military press, bench, and barbell rows. Isolation-type movements should be secondary to the big lifts. I'd recommend buying Starting Strength by Mark Rippetoe for a good explanation on how to get the most out of these lifts.

I'm assuming that your diet is already in order, but if it isn't then stop wasting your money on supps and starting eating: lots of protein, lots of complex carbs, lots of water.
 
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Old 01-20-2007, 02:45 PM   #4
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Hey mates! Read your replies...about quitting the suplements at all, I've done that already. Guess reducing the training is in order, and I'm already high on protein, water and carbs...the latter however I've been careful with..Does it always work like that? do you have to eat heaps of carbs to gain weith and then tone up? some guys at the gym are not doin gthat many carbs and are gaining good volume in arms and chest, which I'm not.
 
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Old 01-20-2007, 09:24 PM   #5
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heres what i feel you should imo........

stick to compound movements if you want to get big.. e.g squats deadlifts military presses rows bench pressing and barbell rows...

now obviously this would be too much to do in one workout therefore i think the workout which would work best for bulking is called bill star's madcow 5 by 5 http://www.geocities.com/elitemadcow...Linear_5x5.htm

theres a link to the program its for intermediates/ beginners and it will greatly benefit you as it has done to all the people who have used it and i tend on using this also in the very near future. ATM im cutting so my workout is a bit different.

supplements you should try out is prolab creatine very good creatine mono's possibly the best on the market. glutamine isnt really necessary when you a are bulking is what i have been told and in retrospect adds a bit of fat when bulking.
in terms of protein met rx prolab optimum whey would be good, if you are really skinny then a weight gainer would be good otherwise theres too much sugar in that stuff. Cardio should still be preformed when bulking unless you are a hard gaining ectomorph.

your aim a day should be too eat roughly 3500-4000 calories a day which would be consisting of around 200g of protein a day. calories are very easy to count:

1g of protein = 4 calories
1g of carb = 4 calories
1g of fat= 9 calories

in a day your diet should be consisting of :

eggs
fish
chicken
sweet potatoes
pasta
brown rice
milk
nuts
fruit
veg
cottage cheese
protein shakes

and about 2 gallons of water a day
if you preform this for 3 months you'll see significant gains in muscle developments along with strength gains.

also to get your chest and arms bigger, working on back and legs is vitally important, legs is where the glygogen stores are and when working on your legs you release these glygogen stores, which your body is able to use, also working on legs is a natural way to increase testosterone levels, which means increase in muscle growth.

good luck.
 
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Old 01-24-2007, 06:49 AM   #6
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dont make calculations. i dont suggest that ****. eat clean, work hard. get your protein, and amino acids.

after that yo can do cardio.. thatz me.

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