[jaim91]

Originally Posted by Lineski367

Do you know what symmetry means? In terms of bodybuilding it means that your left and right sides are identical and there is some small implication that you are at least balanced properly from top to bottom. Jay's left and right biceps are distinctly two different sizes (which pretty much cancels out the entire "Ron's left tricep sucks" arguement), Jay's quads also appeared to be two different sizes at this past year's O, and despite Jay having a pretty tight waist (most of the time) for a larger guy he doesn't the perfectly symmetrical midsection like some other bodybuilders. Yes, that's largely genetic but genetics play an incredible role in BBing that cannot be denied or ignored by the judges.

You're just jealous, lol :)

[Lineski]

Originally Posted by jaim91

You're just jealous, lol :)

The quality of Team Cutler's underlings never ceases to amaze me

[BigBen]

Originally Posted by Lineski367

The quality of Team Cutler's underlings never ceases to amaze me

I agree u big stupid doo doo head

[mvsf1]

Originally Posted by Lineski367

The quality of Team Cutler's underlings never ceases to amaze me

Spanish tip: "You will never go to sleep without something new learned".

Today you've realised Team Cutler is better than Team Lin... Coleman. You can go to bed now. G8d night.

[Ronnie Coleman JR]

What the **** you all talking about jay' had a bigger gut than ronnie in O 2005, he is gonna be even more bloated this year as he is trying to add more mass desperatly

[mvsf1]

Originally Posted by Ronnie Coleman JR

What the **** you all talking about jay' had a bigger gut than ronnie in O 2005, he is gonna be even more bloated this year as he is trying to add more mass desperatly

He is a little bit bloated right now, but in sept he will be in shape... gut is not Jay's problem...

[Lineski]

Originally Posted by mvsf1

He is a little bit bloated right now, but in sept he will be in shape... gut is not Jay's problem...

That's right...according to Team Cutler Jay's flawless

[mvsf1]

Originally Posted by Lineski367

That's right...according to intelligence

Fixed.

[Tonkin]

i dont get why ronnie is policman if hes taken steroids wich is Illigal?

[Nothin' but a peanut!!]

he can do what he wants so ner!

[Knuckles]

Originally Posted by Tonkin

i dont get why ronnie is policman if hes taken steroids wich is Illigal?

Because he's the top ranked bodybuilder in the world, which comes before breaking up domestic disturbances at trailor parks.... which he doesn't do anyway. Good point tho, is kinda ironic and hypocritical.

[Diesel]

Originally Posted by Knuckles

Because he's the top ranked bodybuilder in the world, which comes before breaking up domestic disturbances at trailor parks.... which he doesn't do anyway. Good point tho, is kinda ironic and hypocritical.

Do you think Ronnie is the only cop that takes AAS? There are many cops that take AAS and most of them just for the hell of it. A lot of Strong Man competitors are cops. Not starting an argument but just saying. Anyways, there are far bigger problems in the world than AAS.

[miniduck]

Originally Posted by Diesel

Do you think Ronnie is the only cop that takes AAS? There are many cops that take AAS and most of them just for the hell of it. A lot of Strong Man competitors are cops. Not starting an argument but just saying. Anyways, there are far bigger problems in the world than AAS.

There may be far bigger problems, but Ronnie uses AAS and no one is far bigger than him...

[Diesel]

Originally Posted by miniduck

There may be far bigger problems, but Ronnie uses AAS and no one is far bigger than him...

lol, most departments have dogs; Dallas has Ronnie

[mvsf1]

Originally Posted by Diesel

lol, most departments have dogs; Dallas has Ronnie

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOL! He is a machine!

[Lineski]

Originally Posted by eures

So maybe he should try to bring once a decent, Mr.Olympia title worth package to the stage, not like 2005

Originally Posted by eures

I prefer that form much over his 2005 form where he obviously just focused on his waist and nothing else, so his waist was a lot tighter but everything else looked like **** and he was flat like a bastard.

If your problem with Ronnie in '05 was that he was too flat then you're obviously not a Cutler fan...he's as constistantly flat as one can get, especially in his chest which is a strong-point of Ronnie's. The only time in the past few years that Jay wasn't overly flat was 2004 when he was "out of shape" by Olympia standards (soft lower-back, non-striated glutes, etc...).

As far as everything on Ronnie looking like **** in 2005, I don't see anything too ****ty about him here...but that's just me I guess

[Q80_MuscleHed]

Originally Posted by miniduck

There may be far bigger problems, but Ronnie uses AAS and no one is far bigger than him...

Using an AAS doesn't mean u become big as Ron .. every pro BBer use them .. but it requires dedication hardwork .. sacrificing .. and offcourse genetics .. Ronnie is the mosted gifted genetics IMO in top Pro BBers ..

[Big Red Machine]

Originally Posted by Lineski

If your problem with Ronnie in '05 was that he was too flat then you're obviously not a Cutler fan...he's as constistantly flat as one can get, especially in his chest which is a strong-point of Ronnie's. The only time in the past few years that Jay wasn't overly flat was 2004 when he was "out of shape" by Olympia standards (soft lower-back, non-striated glutes, etc...).

As far as everything on Ronnie looking like **** in 2005, I don't see anything too ****ty about him here...but that's just me I guess

THE BIG RED MACHINE SETS YOU ON FIRE BURN BABY BURN

[miniduck]

Originally Posted by Q80_MuscleHed

Using an AAS doesn't mean u become big as Ron .. every pro BBer use them .. but it requires dedication hardwork .. sacrificing .. and offcourse genetics .. Ronnie is the mosted gifted genetics IMO in top Pro BBers ..

Umm....I know that. I'm pretty sure you misunderstood what I said.

[pauliepr]

Ronnnie is like 41 years old and has been training his whole life, so its kind of hard to catch up to his build, and most bodybuilders are not as dedicated to the sport as Ronnie is. Anyway, Jay will win the Olympia this year, I think Ronnies cutting phase will turn into a disaster simply because he's fatter than ever right now and he wont get motivated enough.

[miniduck]

Originally Posted by pauliepr

Ronnnie is like 41 years old and has been training his whole life, so its kind of hard to catch up to his build, and most bodybuilders are not as dedicated to the sport as Ronnie is. Anyway, Jay will win the Olympia this year, I think Ronnies cutting phase will turn into a disaster simply because he's fatter than ever right now and he wont get motivated enough.

I prefer Jay over Ronnie like you do, but Team Linesk.....I mean Team Coleman is going to rip you apart over that. Just a little warning.

[Lineski]

Originally Posted by pauliepr

Anyway, Jay will win the Olympia this year, I think Ronnies cutting phase will turn into a disaster simply because he's fatter than ever right now and he wont get motivated enough.

What the hell are you talking about? I mean seriously, do you even follow bodybuilding because this goes even beyond your opinion, which I really can't refute too much, this is stupidity and ignorance. Answer me first, what pics or top-secret information do you have that allows you to know that Ronnie "fatter than ever right now" when according to LightWeight (his biggest fan and an active member of this board) Ronnie is at his biggest and leanest ever at 325 lbs and has been quoted as saying, "Dorian Yates was 37 when he won his last Mr. Olympia, Lee Haney was 34 when he won his last, that's the age of my first. I'm 42 now and I think this has been the biggest year for my gains. At about 325, this is my heaviest and my leanest."

Ronnie from this month:


Another member of our board, Glennr2222 just visited Ronnie during the training seminar in Texas and besides taking pictures reported of Ronnie's phenomenal condition and size and added pics to prove it. As far as him not being motivated enough, I inquire as to where you heard this as even calling it speculating seems like a stretch. Why would the greatest bodybuilder of all-time suddenly lose motivation when approaching the biggest contest of his life and while filming a new hardcore workout dvd to document this momumental time? I'm racking my brain trying to come up with something even fairly reasonable to explain your claim and am continuously coming up short. Maybe you can enlighten me...then again, probably not.

Originally Posted by miniduck

I prefer Jay over Ronnie like you do, but Team Linesk.....I mean Team Coleman is going to rip you apart over that. Just a little warning.

At least my pal miniduck knows where it's at

[pauliepr]

[QUOTE=Lineski]What the hell are you talking about? I mean seriously, do you even follow bodybuilding because this goes even beyond your opinion, which I really can't refute too much, this is stupidity and ignorance. Answer me first, what pics or top-secret information do you have that allows you to know that Ronnie "fatter than ever right now" when according to LightWeight (his biggest fan and an active member of this board) Ronnie is at his biggest and leanest ever at 325 lbs and has been quoted as saying, "Dorian Yates was 37 when he won his last Mr. Olympia, Lee Haney was 34 when he won his last, that's the age of my first. I'm 42 now and I think this has been the biggest year for my gains. At about 325, this is my heaviest and my leanest."

Ronnie from this month:


Another member of our board, Glennr2222 just visited Ronnie during the training seminar in Texas and besides taking pictures reported of Ronnie's phenomenal condition and size and added pics to prove it. As far as him not being motivated enough, I inquire as to where you heard this as even calling it speculating seems like a stretch. Why would the greatest bodybuilder of all-time suddenly lose motivation when approaching the biggest contest of his life and while filming a new hardcore workout dvd to document this momumental time? I'm racking my brain trying to come up with something even fairly reasonable to explain your claim and am continuously coming up short. Maybe you can enlighten me...then again, probably not. [/ QUOTE]




Well, I didnt think anybody would get this offended by my post, I thought everybody would call me ignorant and leave it at that. But I did see pictures of Ronnie this year, on this forum, and hes sitting down and you can deffinately see his gut. He looks a little over weight and I thinks he gone a little to far in his off season. These are all my opinions, I have no facts on any of this. And I predicted him to fall apart on his preparation for the olympia before I knew he was making another video. But now, his motivation is probably higher than ever and im pretty sure this DVD will kick ass then. And to my previous post, that whole thing was my entire opinion, I just enjoy the feedback I get from those posts.

Now on a serious note, Ronnie will look great at this years olympia, Jay will look great at this years olympia, everybody will look great. But this year its Cutlers time, his back looks better than ever right now and Ronnie wont get away easy with any of those back poses. Jays got the better midsection hands down, we'll just have to see who can get the smaller waist this year. Jay has really brought his chest out as well, he can stand to Ronnie on that one as well. Overall, Jay is bringin' it, he doesnt mess around. This year will be close, but Jay will come out on top looking damn near perfect. Besides, he promised all his fans...

[Lineski]

Originally Posted by pauliepr

Well, I didnt think anybody would get this offended by my post, I thought everybody would call me ignorant and leave it at that. But I did see pictures of Ronnie this year, on this forum, and hes sitting down and you can deffinately see his gut. He looks a little over weight and I thinks he gone a little to far in his off season. These are all my opinions, I have no facts on any of this. And I predicted him to fall apart on his preparation for the olympia before I knew he was making another video. But now, his motivation is probably higher than ever and im pretty sure this DVD will kick ass then. And to my previous post, that whole thing was my entire opinion, I just enjoy the feedback I get from those posts.

Now on a serious note, Ronnie will look great at this years olympia, Jay will look great at this years olympia, everybody will look great. But this year its Cutlers time, his back looks better than ever right now and Ronnie wont get away easy with any of those back poses. Jays got the better midsection hands down, we'll just have to see who can get the smaller waist this year. Jay has really brought his chest out as well, he can stand to Ronnie on that one as well. Overall, Jay is bringin' it, he doesnt mess around. This year will be close, but Jay will come out on top looking damn near perfect. Besides, he promised all his fans...

I didn't get offended at all but I like how all of this emphasis can be placed on the midsection or, to be specific, the shape of the abdominal muscles, which cannot at all change over the course of the year. I'm not too worried about Ronnie's stomach control because, once again, he was able to control his distention better than Jay last year so I feel I'm not on the "team" that should be worried. As far as Jay's chest being able to stand next to Ronnie's, come on man it's not even close. Jay improved his back dramatically last year and I would never take that away from him. That being said, his chest is still a weak point and he's continued to come in flat in that region for years now and conversely Ronnie has the best chest in bodybuilding today.

[pauliepr]

hey man, his chest is getting alot better, not better than ronnies but it will look really good compared to Ronnie. This ones from "One Step Closer" its pumped and looks pretty damn good....

[hypocrisy86]

good pic

[mvsf1]

I'm with Linesky, Coleman has the best chest in last 20 years of BB but the problem with BigRon is that, at 42 he hasn't margin to become much better... Cutler's improvements are bigger; of course, because Cutler was not in a similar conditioning than Ron... but now he is pretty damm close, or even better...

Ok, all we know BB contests are based on how you look contest day but judges are human, and I think Cutler's biggest improvements can have the key in the final result... Ronnie will come slighty better or worse than last year.... not massive changes... but Jay... we will see... CUTS OUT BABY!

[Big Red Machine]

well i guess i need to remind ole lineski that JAY CUTLER WILL DESTROY ALL IN 2006 AND THERE IS NOTHING RONNIE OR ANYBODYELSE (LINESKI) CAN DO TO STOP HIM

[ruel]

the 2006 olympia is coming near! let's see! im excited to see big ron onstage dwarfing all the contenders next to him!

[FOOTBALL FAN]

Originally Posted by big red machine

well i guess i need to remind ole lineski that JAY CUTLER WILL DESTROY ALL IN 2006 AND THERE IS NOTHING RONNIE OR ANYBODYELSE (LINESKI) CAN DO TO STOP HIM

we will see wont we but the only thing I can see Jay destroying are his chances of winning mr O and all of team Coleman will be there to see big Ron win